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Roel
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 Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:17 am
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Hello Mynglers,
I am happy to announce that Myngle is launching a new feature on the course tab. From now on the most successful courses will be listed per level and per language in a separate space called "Top courses". The new feature brings some advantages to our users. For our students it is easy to find the highest rated course. For the teachers it is a great way to get more exposure as their courses increase in value. So the question is what determines the value of the courses? It is valued by a formula that takes into consideration the amount of times the course is taught, the number of lessons created in the course and the average feedback the course is credited. We hope you enjoy this new feature and we will be happy to hear your thoughts on it. |
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Masreya
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Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 1:44 pm
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Hi Roel,
Welcome to Myngle, and thanks for the very important update !
i think the idea is great, and its very important to have it done the right way.
ok, my idea is, it should be done based on the contents of the course ( how many lessons, slides uplaoded ), which will effect how many times it has been booked and taken by students i suppose .
both are important, because they do indicate how the course is structured and how much the students are pleased with it ( the rating will also show on this matter ).
what do you think Mynglers ! |
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AmericanTeacher
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Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 3:33 pm
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No comment .......... for the moment 
| Masreya wrote: | Hi Roel,
Welcome to Myngle, and thanks for the very important update !
i think the idea is great, and its very important to have it done the right way.
ok, my idea is, it should be done based on the contents of the course ( how many lessons, slides uplaoded ), which will effect how many times it has been booked and taken by students i suppose .
both are important, because they do indicate how the course is structured and how much the students are pleased with it ( the rating will also show on this matter ).
what do you think Mynglers ! |
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Samir1
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Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:45 pm
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| Roel wrote: | Hello Mynglers,
I am happy to announce that Myngle is launching a new feature on the course tab. From now on the most successful courses will be listed per level and per language in a separate space called "Top courses". The new feature brings some advantages to our users. For our students it is easy to find the highest rated course. For the teachers it is a great way to get more exposure as their courses increase in value. So the question is what determines the value of the courses? It is valued by a formula that takes into consideration the amount of times the course is taught, the number of lessons created in the course and the average feedback the course is credited. We hope you enjoy this new feature and we will be happy to hear your thoughts on it. |
Please don't implement it before having the feedback of the teachers about that. Thanks for your understanding. |
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Samir1
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Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:48 pm
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Teachers,
Your comments are highly appreciated the soonest |
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aubrey
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Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:02 pm
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wowww... this is great ...I am not particular with stars and feedback of my students to my courses. I always forget to ask my students to rate my courses...
This is a great chance again for the top teachers to get recognize. But how about those teachers who have good courses yet no classes taken yet?
Do you think it is good if there is a tab for courses then links for each language ? 
Slides? Frankly speaking, I do not find slides useful anymore. I prefer to use microsoftword in sending my lessons/ course copy to my students so that they can edit to answer the exercises i gave them. I send a copy of my lessons to the students so that they can have reinforcement and extension of learning... 
The whiteboard and other tools insde the classroom are not functioning well. The text disappears when writing so no use... I hope you will fix this asap because teachers have continues classes 24/7 .... |
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Sahara
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Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:03 am
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Like Debby said,
no comment ... for the moment
maybe it would be good for the students' benefit, but not for the teachers'! |
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Aniya
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Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 6:30 am
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| Not sure that it's such a great idea, I'll explain why, my students just click any old course on my list as they've been with me for quite a while so used to the procedure, the lessons are sent prior to the lesson, so sheets mp3 etc., so this could be misleading or unhelpful in some cases... |
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Gaveston
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Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 9:09 am
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| Aniya wrote: | | Not sure that it's such a great idea, so this could be misleading or unhelpful in some cases... |
Hi Aniya, I think you might be missing the point! Whereas we, the teachers, all agree that students look for a teacher they can work with and are more than willing to leave the individual (highly individual!) course planning to that teacher, Myngle see the courses as the main selling point. This is one of the things that makes Myngle different from other online language platforms and more like an offline language school. IMHO |
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AmericanTeacher
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Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 9:57 am
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Samir, From what I understood, this is already a done deal.
| Samir1 wrote: | | Roel wrote: | Hello Mynglers,
I am happy to announce that Myngle is launching a new feature on the course tab. From now on the most successful courses will be listed per level and per language in a separate space called "Top courses". The new feature brings some advantages to our users. For our students it is easy to find the highest rated course. For the teachers it is a great way to get more exposure as their courses increase in value. So the question is what determines the value of the courses? It is valued by a formula that takes into consideration the amount of times the course is taught, the number of lessons created in the course and the average feedback the course is credited. We hope you enjoy this new feature and we will be happy to hear your thoughts on it. |
Please don't implement it before having the feedback of the teachers about that. Thanks for your understanding. |
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Samir1
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Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 10:10 am
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| Debby wrote: | Samir, From what I understood, this is already a done deal.
Maybe Debby but as far as I read the comments of the teachers, they are rather against or no comment 
| Samir1 wrote: | | Roel wrote: | Hello Mynglers,
I am happy to announce that Myngle is launching a new feature on the course tab. From now on the most successful courses will be listed per level and per language in a separate space called "Top courses". The new feature brings some advantages to our users. For our students it is easy to find the highest rated course. For the teachers it is a great way to get more exposure as their courses increase in value. So the question is what determines the value of the courses? It is valued by a formula that takes into consideration the amount of times the course is taught, the number of lessons created in the course and the average feedback the course is credited. We hope you enjoy this new feature and we will be happy to hear your thoughts on it. |
Please don't implement it before having the feedback of the teachers about that. Thanks for your understanding. |
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Elisa D.
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Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:07 pm
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Hi everybody!
Good to see the reactions, as always there are people who like the idea and others that are more resistant to change.
This feature is being introduced in the courses tab, it doens't affect the teacher list of the courses offered by the teachers. It will simply show on top of the courses list those who are being more successfull with the values explained by Roeland.
Before being resistant to this change, we can think about how courses were shown up to now: by course ID, which means, first to be shown on top was the course that was created by one teacher when myngle was born, second when myngle was 2 weeks old, etc.
How that benefited the teachers?why are you so attached to it?did you know how the courses were shown?these questions are all to invite you to see that sometimes it is good to find surprises...i am sure it will be useful both for students and for teachers.
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China_Mike
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Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 2:13 pm
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Can anyone identify this quote which I think is very appropriate for this announcement:
| Quote: | | curiousier and curiousier |
Curious that a new intern would announce this. But most curious that the words, the key words, "MOST SUCCESSFUL COURSES" have not been defined.
Let me see if I can reflect on what my most successful courses have been?
Are they the courses that covered the most pages in a book? Hmmm. definitely not.
Are they the courses that I taught the most often? No, not necessarily.
Are they the courses that get the best feedback? Oh, not really. In those classes I treated men like Kings and women like Queens and played lots of fun games. This describes popularity.
In my eyes successful courses were those courses where the students learned the most. Sometimes but not always this was measured by a test. Usually it was measured by how much effort the students put into learning.
I think our young new Intern (http://www.myngle.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1845) did not actually mean successful in his posting. I think maybe he meant to use the words popular, well-used, and lengthy.
| Quote: | | curiousier and curiousier |
Not that popular, well-used and lengthy is a bad thing mind you.
| Quote: | | curiousier and curiousier |
Actually, having said all this, I find that this is not a bad idea. It is definitely a move in the right direction. However you know, I have what I think might be an even better idea. Why not let the teachers decide which courses are the most SUCCESSFUL (as opposed to popular, well-used or lengthly)? With one exception. Any student who completes ALL the courses is given a vote.
And because this student has an actual basis for comparison his/her vote is extremely important. You can now ask that student the key question. IN WHICH COURSE DID YOU LEARN THE MOST? |
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testingsteve
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Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 2:23 pm
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Hi Mike,
Well that would be Alice except I think she said "curiouser" rather than "curiousier"! Anyway yes the definition of successful is up for debate but as I think was mentioned These "top recommended courses" are being decided taking into account the factors described by Roeland.
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China_Mike
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Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 2:35 pm
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The problem with software is that it doesn't discriminate well. You start feeding properties in and you better be sure what is coming out the other end. I just wanted to point out that from my point of view, that what Roeland was defining was not success.
There I said it. In much fewer words and hopefully correctly spelled. But you knew this didn't you? |
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